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Interview

Ann Diamond on Memory and Forgetting

Ross Merriam

Ross

Part two of an interview conducted by Ross Merriam, web editor for Geist, with Ann Diamond, who is working from the Greek island of Lemnos. You can read the first part of this interview here.

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Ross Merriam: When you say “Life has taught me that wher­ever there is a sense of ‘noth­ing hap­pen­ing’ or a blank space, there’s usu­ally some­thing being hid­den,” are you say­ing that gaps in people’s mem­o­ries are cov­er­ing up some kind of deeper, hid­den truth? Also are these mem­ory gaps nec­es­sar­ily dark by nature, or is it pos­si­ble to have repressed happy memories?

 
Ann Diamond: Well, most of our lives prob­a­bly dis­ap­pear from our mem­o­ries, although some peo­ple remem­ber much more than oth­ers. I have met peo­ple who say they have total video­graphic recall of every­thing that ever hap­pened to them, and they can access these mem­o­ries at will. That’s pretty unusual and it can be more of a plague than a bless­ing, to remem­ber every­thing. Forgetting is prob­a­bly a pro­tec­tive mech­a­nism that allows us to imag­ine a future, instead of drown­ing in the past.
 
I have a twin brother who remem­bers our child­hood in much more detail than I do. Twins grow up closer together than sib­lings whose births are fur­ther apart. Twins start school at the same time, for instance, and tend to be at the same stage devel­op­men­tally, so it makes sense that they would remem­ber the same events in sim­i­lar ways. My brother and I do share cer­tain mem­o­ries. A few years ago when I started recon­struct­ing my child­hood, as opposed to “our” child­hood as “we” remem­bered it, to my sur­prise, it seemed there were gaps, peri­ods when I was “gone” – it was as if I hadn’t wit­nessed cer­tain events or expe­ri­enced the same con­ti­nu­ity of fam­ily life that he recalls. So, I started to ask, where was I? That became the ques­tion. I wasn’t expect­ing any­thing like the answers that I started finding.
 
So, to answer your ques­tion: I can’t really see why we would have to “repress” happy mem­o­ries. Some happy mem­o­ries sim­ply evap­o­rate, or get replaced by other happy mem­o­ries. Traumatic mem­o­ries, on the other hand, can hang around and haunt us, or we can dwell on them too much. But when there’s noth­ing where oth­ers remem­ber some­thing — a blank space, where you can’t really say any­thing about a period of your life – that sug­gests some­thing hap­pened that your con­scious mind has decided not to rec­og­nize, for any num­ber of reasons.
 
RM: How do you find out what hap­pened in those mem­ory gaps? And as you find things out, does that make you feel less “artificial”?
 
AD: I don’t know how other peo­ple inves­ti­gate mem­ory. Psychotherapy would be one way that seems to work. Or hyp­no­sis. I only tried that once in 1998 and it took me back to ancient Egypt and then to a past life in 1942 in occu­pied Poland. Far, far away from the world I was born into, which was Canadian through and through. It was incred­i­bly vivid, just like being thrown back to wartime. It’s what I imag­ine peo­ple mean by “video­graphic” mem­ory – except I wasn’t just watch­ing the video, I was inside it. And I died at the end. That was quite some­thing, too, because after death I flew down a long tun­nel that was like a long windy worm­hole all the way to Canada and the par­ents I had in this life­time. And they were dressed exactly as they would have been in 1950, when my mother got preg­nant. Some peo­ple find that kind of story “flaky” even though hav­ing an expe­ri­ence like that can really be life-changing. What this strange and intense expe­ri­ence sug­gested to me was that my birth, and my child­hood, were closely linked to the Second World War in Europe – even though I was born in Canada and never went to Europe until my late twenties.
 
In 2002, I was liv­ing in Vancouver and hap­pened to read a novel: The Good German, about Nazi sci­en­tists hid­ing in Berlin who were being recruited by the OSS – the pre­cur­sor of the CIA – just after the Second World War. It wasn’t a great book, but I became obsessed for a while with “Operation Paperclip” – the secret pro­gram that brought Nazi sci­en­tists to America after the war. And I began won­dered if some of the sci­en­tists might have been med­ical peo­ple.  Earlier that same year I had been to Auschwitz as a tourist, and I had seen Doctor Mengele’s clinic, which stands next to the Wall of Death where the Gestapo used to exe­cute resis­tance peo­ple and so on.
 
I started fol­low­ing Mengele’s tracks and as syn­chronic­ity would have it, he started to show up mag­i­cally, every­where, like the White Rabbit – except more mon­strous. I met a kid on the inter­net who claimed to be Mengele’s rein­car­na­tion, and for a month he bom­barded me with emails. An old friend  sud­denly turned up mirac­u­lously after twenty-five years and invited me out to a movie that turned out to be about Dr. Mengele’s assis­tant. And so on.
 
I was moti­vated by his­tor­i­cal curios­ity, plus a feel­ing that Mengele was some­how “famil­iar.” This was noth­ing new – I had always had the feel­ing I had lived dur­ing the Holocaust, even though I wasn’t born until 1951. What did this have to do with my child­hood? Absolutely noth­ing! I had always been afraid of ask­ing per­sonal ques­tions, like “What really hap­pened in my child­hood?” As far as I was con­cerned, my child­hood was not worth inves­ti­gat­ing. Whereas Dr. Mengele, the Angel of Death of Auschwitz, was.
 
Since I sud­denly had unlim­ited time and inter­net access, the first ques­tion that came to me was: “Did Dr. Mengele ever work for the CIA?” And my first Google search took me straight to the Allan Memorial Institute in Montreal, and the year 1962. The first arti­cle that came up said Mengele had actu­ally been there that year, and had worked for the CIA. And there was plenty of infor­ma­tion in other searches that seemed to sup­port that bizarre asser­tion. The real story of the Allan Memorial has never been told, in my opin­ion, but it’s well known as the Montreal men­tal hos­pi­tal where the CIA funded some very heinous exper­i­ments from about 1953 to 1964, with help from the infa­mous Dr. Ewen Cameron.
 
Now – coin­ci­dence or not – in 1962 some­thing ter­ri­ble had hap­pened to our fam­ily, and espe­cially to my father. He sud­denly went into the Allan Memorial, in early December of that year, just after the Cuban Missile Crisis, and that was a very scary time for me as an eleven-year-old. Because my dad was gone for six whole weeks and all of a sud­den he was “men­tally ill” although really, apart from some­times hav­ing a bad tem­per, he was a totally straight type of guy, a high school teacher, never missed a day of work, didn’t drink or do any­thing. A super-responsible, if some­what dis­tant, fam­ily man. I do remem­ber he was under a lot of stress in those days, as was my mother.
 
When he came home from the hos­pi­tal six weeks later, he seemed not to remem­ber us at first, or he seemed a bit con­fused as to who we all were and what we were sup­posed to be doing all together as a fam­ily. But he recov­ered quickly and went right back to work – unlike many other patients of Dr. Cameron, who were reduced to a veg­e­ta­tive con­di­tion with drugs, elec­troshock and other meth­ods that were being tested on unwit­ting people.
 
Now you might think those trau­matic events in my child­hood would have dogged me for years – but I very quickly for­got about them. Like the rest of my fam­ily, I min­i­mized them, put them in stor­age, never men­tioned them, because they were not impor­tant. They were just an anom­aly that didn’t fit into any pic­ture we had, from before or after, of who we were, which was: a nor­mal, middle-class Canadian fam­ily who were “suc­cess­ful” accord­ing to the stan­dards of the fifties and early six­ties. That time when my dad sud­denly went into the hos­pi­tal, and cer­tain other very pecu­liar things that were hap­pen­ing dur­ing those months, just seemed totally dis­con­nected from every­thing else about us, and our lives, and the world we lived in. Who could I talk to about all that? I had my image to keep up: I was bright at school, pop­u­lar, ath­letic – all those attrib­utes that peo­ple val­ued then. I sim­ply went on grow­ing up and liv­ing my life in the belief that what­ever had hap­pened, back there, we had sur­vived, so why think about it? In fact we had only partly sur­vived – my father had lost his short-term mem­ory and had to quit teach­ing, and my mother had come down with a crip­pling ill­ness. But when you’re young, you can over­come everything.
 
So at age thir­teen, when a guid­ance coun­sel­lor asked me if I suf­fered from any fears or bad feel­ings or had any per­sonal prob­lems that I would like to con­fide, I told him my biggest per­sonal worry was that we were not try­ing hard enough to get along with the Russians. I deliv­ered quite a long speech about that before leav­ing his office. That year I also read the Communist Manifesto and wrote a term paper about Vladimir Ilyich Lenin as “The per­son I most admire.” I don’t really know where all that came from, but that was where my think­ing took me. I was very sin­cere. It seems I had dis­so­ci­ated from a trau­matic real­ity that was too close to home, and sub­sti­tuted a par­al­lel, arti­fi­cial one.
 
So forty years later, in 2002, I sud­denly had the time and the means to inves­ti­gate what had been going on in my envi­ron­ment, in Montreal, the city we lived in dur­ing those years, at the begin­ning of what they call the Quiet Revolution in Quebec, and in the out­side world it was the height of the Cold War when peo­ple were build­ing under­ground bomb shel­ters in case of a nuclear attack. As a “cre­ative writer” of fic­tion and poetry, I thought I dis­liked libraries and research, but sud­denly I was read­ing twelve hours a day and more. Thanks to the inter­net I could access thou­sands of pages of doc­u­ments and infor­ma­tion. That win­ter of 2002 – 3, I read con­tin­u­ously for months. Much of what I read was about some­thing called “Trauma-based mind con­trol.” Whatever that is, lo and behold! Dr. Mengele prac­tised it, and had been doing it to peo­ple in his clinic at Auschwitz.
 
I sud­denly felt I had the key to unlock some pretty dark, but def­i­nitely bizarre, clos­ets that seemed to be lurk­ing in my past. That was when cer­tain mem­o­ries started sur­fac­ing, and mak­ing sense – some of which I had been aware of, con­sciously, since early child­hood, and had even writ­ten about, as fic­tion, such as being in an under­ground lab­o­ra­tory with other chil­dren. Other mem­o­ries arrived as real, phys­i­cal flash­backs, where sud­denly you are a lit­tle girl on a table sur­rounded by doc­tors, and you can hear them talk­ing about what they are about to do.
 
 

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